A4 configuration...The perfect "go anywhere" piece. You really know how to upset the locals here on the board, don't you?

Mine has a little more history (Vietnam) to it.



Maybe we need a "Show us your favorite Assault Rifle" Thread!!

Ruger mini-14 with aftermarket magazine and Butler Creek stock (folded for storage); handgun is Smith & Wesson 3913 LadySmith. This was my first rifle, purchased when I was 18 or 19 (had a traditional-looking wooden stock back then).



SAR-1 (civilian AK-47 lookalike) in hunting configuration, with 5-round magazine and 4x24 scope. I don't hunt, but I like to challenge the stereotype.

Is that one of the Russian "PU" type scopes, Ben?

It's a POSP 4x24, made in Belarus. The markings are in Russian.

Which makes the whole package more authentic-looking, but makes it a bit more difficult to get it sighted in the first time if you haven't memorized the Russian words for UP, DOWN, LEFT, and RIGHT.

The optics are VERY clear, it's waterproof, has an extendable sunshade/rain shield, and even an illuminated rangefinding reticle, holds zero when removed and replaced, and I think I paid $99 plus shipping.

Here's the reticle (apologies for the blur, but I was holding the scope in one hand and the digicam in the other):

Scope reticle (larger view)

The funny thing is that this gun could have been legal under the AWB if you would have just taken off a few things... like that did any good!

Do you know how much i could get one of these for?

In my opinion BUSHMASTER and OLYMPIC are two of the better manufactures of the various AR-15 configurations. You can also check GUNBROKER auction for some good deals for new and used.
My own personal opinion is that I prefer the AK variant over the AR. Cost and reliability factor in to my thinking here.

Actually 3 items, FD. The adjustable buttstock, the birdcage flash suppressor and the bayonet lug were considered no-no's during the AWB. Of course, the bayonet lug was the most evil of the three. I’ve heard that drive-by bayonetings had gone down drastically during the ban.

You know I am rather amazed this thread has yet to flush out a single pro gun-control poster. Maybe there is hope for the Democratic party after all.

I am guessng that most people who don't love guns just rolled their eyes and read a different post.

You are probably right, nates daisy!



It's still early, RD...

What about the fourth one? Wasn't the dreaded pistol grip one of the no no's?

Well, i hope so but i think i'm going to have to agree with Nates Daisy on this one.

Actually, the pistol grip was OK as long as it wasn't in concert with the other items. I also forgot to mention the high capicity magazines.

AWB specifics

Yup it is VERYYYyyyy... important to have those 30 clip magazines when out hunting dinosaurs.
My main grief whit supporters of the right to anything under sky weapons, is that you dont need it wether defending your home (unless you live in Israel) or hunting, if i cant bring a buck down whit a single shot rifle, then i am a lousy hunter and even lousier shot that should not have a hunting license in the first place.

My personal opinion is that 30 round mags are a pain in the butt. They can be hard to load...reliability can be suspected...and they are next to useless if you are shooting from a prone position. Taping two 10-round mags back to back (as we did in Vietnam) is just as effective.
My SKS on the other hand, uses a 10 round "stripper clip". Fast and efficient reloads are not a problem with a little practice.
I would imagine you saw quite a few SKS and M-48 Mausers while in Bosnia, Alexander?

Since this is the "show off your "EVIL" semi auto rifle thread" here are a few pics of the one I built after the ban ended.

here it is in the configuration that a Hungarian soldier would have carried


and here it is with replacement front wood.



The kick in the butt is, I ended up selling it and didnt have to. After I built it I found out I would be going back to Camp Pendleton in the Peoples republic of California, where these "EVIL" guns are still banned. So I sold it to a FFL dealer. Well about a month after I sold It I found out that military personel are excempt from the Cali ban, and that I didnt need to sell it. I am tossing around the Idea of building another one in the next few months so I have one again. But they are expensive to feed, I went through about 900 rounds of ammo in 2 months just going to the range and plinking with it.

Here is a pic of my Yugo SKS, in its current configuration it is also illegal, due to the "Grenade Launcher" built on it. But all I have to do to make it Cali legal it remove it. This gun is a great plinker, and I use it for pig hunting.

You were allowed 1 listed feature. So you could have EITHER a pistol grip, OR a bayonet lug, OR a flash suppressor, OR a threaded muzzle, OR an adjustable-length stock, but not two of them.


AR magazines (as well as AK magazines) weren't really affected by the AWB since most AR and AK magazines on the planet were made before 1994 and therefore exempt. 30-round AK magazines went for $10 each during the AWB, and 20-rounders were $5.99. That's even cheaper than they are now.


It is if you are hunting with a caliber this low-powered. The .223 Remington (caliber of both the AR type rifle and mini-14 pictured above) is commonly used for prairie dog hunting, but is not really powerful enough to humanely hunt anything larger than a coyote. Were I hunting dinosaurs, I'd use a big-game rifle like a .458 (or a .577 T-rex!), not a puny .223. 30 rounds from an AR would probably just make a T-rex mad at you.

That sort of reminds me of the guy who asked an Alaskan guide about recommended modifications to his .38 revolver for defense against bears. The guide recommended removing the front sight and beveling all the edges. When asked why, the guide said "so it doesn't hurt so much when the bear shoves it up your a**." If a T-rex's arms weren't so short, that's probably what he'd do if you shot him with an AR (before he ate you, anyway).


(1) The vast majority of gun owners don't hunt, so hunting is irrelevant.

(2) I don't support "anything under the sky." But 30-round civilian firearms have been on the market since, what, the 1920's? And are rarely used in crimes due to their marked lack of concealability.

I should have mentioned that the high capacity magazines that were on the market prior to the AWB were "grandfathered" in. No new Hi-caps could be manufactured except for the military and law enforcement, and were so marked.

Yup. That really hurt people who owned handguns of recent manufacture (my wife paid over $100 for a 15-round magazine for her Glock around 1996 or so), since most handgun magazines are proprietary.

Rifle owners (and rifle buyers) were lucky because so many magazines were manufactured before 1994. Those normal-capacity HK rifle magazines going for $2 each during the ban made me wish I owned an HK...

And even if you do hunt, Most states limit you to 5 rounds or less ammo capacity during deer season, some other seasons the ammo capacity restrictions are not in effect. When I carried my AK pig hunting (only once, but not because It didnt make a good hunting gun) I used a 5 round mag, even though I didnt have too to hunt pigs.



Well if you go pig hunting with a single shot rifle, we may not hear from you for a while due to the hospital stay. I Have been charged by a 200 Lb Boar (male pig) and he was not charging me just to ask me my name and how I was doing, Disembowelment and or mauling came to mind. If you have a big pig charging you and you miss with that 1 shot, well better hope there is a climbable tree close by. Im not gonna climb a tree, Im gonna drop that pig with a second shot.

Everyone thinks that all hunting is like deer hunting where you have time to take the perfect shot. Pigs dont give you that option usually.

here is a pic of the pig I took last October.


to give the size a little bit better size perspective, here is a pic of my ugly mug with the pig.


The aformentioned pig that I took ended up taking 3 shots to put down 2 .30-06 from an M-1 garand with iron sights and 1 7.62X54R from a finnish M-39 Mosin Nagant.

First shot I took as it charged me down a firebreak was a frontal shot at the head with the Garand at about 100 yds, it hit it a little low in the upper jaw but didnt punch into the body.
The pig spun 180, and started running towards my buddy who had just came out at the other end about 150 yds away. I would have fired again and dropped it but my buddy was there and I was not going to risk hitting him. I moved to the right to get out of his line of fire. He fired a shot that hit in the chest but somehow deflected down and left and exited the pigs right front leg.

The pig was hurting bad now so it tried to escape, ran under a fence and hunkered down at the base of a tree. we crawled under the fence and walked slowly towards the pig. As soon as the pig saw us it started to get back up to charge again, when a shot in the head finally put it down. This pig had taken two pretty decent shots from two different high powered rifles and he still wanted to fight, so you trying to limit my weapons ammo capacity to 1 because of your deer hunting experience is not fair nor right.

Every situation is different, different types of animals are hunted differently and may require more than one shot.

Am I advocating hunting with a fully automatic weapon, NO, it is illegal in every state in the USA to do that. but dont look down your nose at someone who hunts differently than you. We need to stick together, not be divided.

I dont care what type of weapon someone uses or how many rounds it holds, I do care that you take well aimed shots and try to prevent unneccesary suffering with the animal you hunt by using a firearm with enough power. If a 5.56 is powerful enough to hunt ground hogs and coyotes (which it is) rock on. Im not positive which states this applies to, but I know AR's are not allowed for hunting deer in most states. But an AK semi auto clone or SKS is due to bullet size and weight up to a certain distance, where it is comparable in power to .30-30.

Guessing right.

Many states explicitly prohibit having more than 5 or 6 rounds while hunting.

So you see no other use for a rifle other than hunting, home defence or crime?

There is a question that I have asked many times of gun control proponents and have not received an intelligible answer yet. Perhaps you'd like to try?

The question is this. Provided a properly sized range and given that all applicable safety protocols are followed, how is the firing of any weapon up to and including a mortar dangerous to any individual and the community at large?


Incidentally, I don't see why people get so excited over a severely cut down plastic and aluminum target rifle in a puny caliber.

Actually no, mostly AK's, 1 Dragunov and a Lee-Enfield from around 1914 + various explosives and mines.
The enfield is still a quite good weapon by the way, precise and hard hitting.
It was used whit a fairly good scope for sniping by the way, that was how we got a hold of it after the owner had passed on.

I had seen photos of confiscated SKS's and M-48 (Yugo's)...That's why I asked. The Number 1, Mark III Lee Enfield (SMLE) is one of the finest rifles ever built, IMO. Chambered in the .303 British, it makes a fine Deer rifle. The .308 "Ishapore" is no slouch either.
I would think being the fine Dane that you are, You might have some knowledge of the Madsen rifle.

If I was to buy another rifle, I think it would be the Romanian WASR-10.

It can be purchased for under $300.00 and the reviews I've read about it are very good.

I've shot the Romanian WASR-10, and except for the famous "dimples" in the reciever, is a faithful rendition of the original Russian.

Im tossing arount the idea of building a ak from the kits for sale, I'll have to buy a reciever from an ffl (not a big deal). I built one just after then ban ended, it was fun

I knew it.... by all the gagging sounds I heard when I looked at these posts.

Boys and their dangerous toys.....

Only dangerous in the wrong hands...And toys they ain't

I haven't heard about the "dimples". What are they?

These are located on the magwell. they were designed to keep the Mags from wobbling from side to side.
A post-ban Romanian (WASR-10) has no side dimples on the receiver to keep magazines from moving, instead have plates welded inside reciver. They were originally built to accept low cap magazines (single stack) then were 'opened' to accept High Capacity magazines (after ban) as well.
It's cosmetic for the most part, and only the AK purists really care.

They are safer in my legal to own hands than a criminals who doesnt care about any laws that prohibit him from owning it

Importation of parts kits is ending at the end of this year (or sooner) per a recent BATFE ruling, so if you want one you'd better get it now.


Actually, Romanian AK lookalikes up till 2002 or so had the dimples. My SAR-1 has the dimples (designed for double-stack) and it's a 2002 model. I think it was a recent BATFE ruling that stopped the importation of SAR's.


Less dangerous than a hunting rifle (all the rifles pictured so far are less than half as powerful as a typical deer rifle), and far less likely to be used in crime than a .38 revolver since they can't be concealed on the person.

Re: "boys"--I need to post a photo of my wife's historically significant Russian SKS carbine (Samozaryadnaya Karabina Simonova 1945g). She's not a boy...

And I will exchange it with ya for my best friend's photos with her guns too....

An overgeneralization I know.....

I never have liked M-16s or there derivatives. I am a pretty big fellow so the weight of an M-14 never bothered me.

My favorite

The M-14 is a much superior rifle albeit used for different purposes.

I actually have one of these

It's a nice rifle with one drawback, no detachable magazine.

I think I've already posted how one of these things converts to full auto by being sloppy during a reassembley. The trigger guard assembly carries the sear and hammer components on board and is secured to the receiver with three screws which are locked by half moon set screws. Forget to turn the set screws and the screws holding the trigger assembly on gradually work loose. When that happens the sear doesn't fully engage and when the bolt slams shut it will drop the hammer. You end up with a 10 shot automatic rifle (or how ever many rounds are left in the magazine when that occurs). If you tighten the set screws when that happens you will end up with a permanent automatic rifle. Since it's gas operated it chugs just like a BAR.

I learned this while working with Belgium arsenal personnel the hard way. They thought it funny as hell to see people they were training get an unexpected automatic rifle.

Since when?



Every M-14 that I've seen utilizes a detatchable magazine.

You might want to look at the picture with your glasses on. Its a FN-49, not and M-14

Whoops...

Which country and caliber?

Venzuela, 7mm Mauser

Very nice!...Some time ago there was quite a few showing up as the 8mm. Egyptians. I passed on those in favor of the Egyptian Hakim in 8mm. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have gone with the FN. I've traded off many a nice rifle that I would truly like to have back. The two Russian SVT-41 snipers for example.

is that yours?? that is a nice looking rifle

Hell, i wish it was! One day Noonanda, one day.

I will most likely never own an AR, the Marine Corps has spoiled me on the M-16. Plus Im a wood kind of guy. If they ever make wood furniture for an AR then I might think about it, but plastic just doesnt feel the same on a rifle as a nice piece of wood.