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rox63
This has been a very hot topic in the news up here in Massachusetts. Personally, I support the wind farm. But I'm don't live on Cape Cod.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060426/us_nm/...wind_capecod_dc

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Cape Cod debates first US offshore wind farm

By Jason Szep
Wed Apr 26, 5:07 PM ET

YARMOUTH, Massachusetts (Reuters) - A plan to build the world largest offshore wind-power farm off Massachusetts is dividing residents of the Cape Cod resort region, in a debate involving million-dollar ocean views, migrating birds and soaring energy bills.

Opponents seeking to block the $900 million project include Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy, whose family's Hyannisport compound is in sight of it. Kennedy's brother, former president John F. Kennedy, created the Cape Cod National Seashore in 1961.

After several years of intense lobbying on both sides, many Cape Cod residents are deeply divided as Congress approaches a vote as early as next week that could effectively block the what would be the first U.S. offshore wind farm.

"Lots of people around here are against it. Some worry about the view. But if it will bring down my electric bill, I'm for it," said Mort Handler, an 81-year-old real estate agent with Cape Realty in Yarmouth, a port town of 21,174 people.

The plan calls for 130 wind turbines spread over 24 square miles -- about the size of a small town -- 6 miles off the coast. Each turbine tower would rise 247 feet out of the water, almost as much as the Statue of Liberty's 305 feet.

At its peak, the privately funded Cape Wind Associates LLC project would generate more than 400 megawatts of electricity, enough to meet the needs of some 400,000 homes, or about 75 percent of Cape Cod and the islands.

Backers say the wind farm would save millions of dollars in energy costs and help the United States wean itself off foreign oil at a time of record-high crude prices, in a region where fuel bills have doubled in 5 years.

But opponents say the turbines' big steel blades could kill migrating birds and the sight of them could threaten the lucrative tourist industry.

Cape Cod and its nearby islands of Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard are famous for mansions, scenic beaches, hot summers, bitterly cold winters and a centuries-old fishing industry.

The wind farm would take advantage of the region's strong winds, shallow depth and historically small storm waves.

"You get people split exactly in the middle here," said Christine Ross, executive director of the Chamber of Commerce in the town of Falmouth.

"There are people out there who think cynically that the last place that power is going to land is on Cape Cod. They are also concerned about safety and the visible detraction. Then there are people who see renewable energy as a fabulous thing."

ENVIRONMENTAL WORRIES

A poll by the University of Delaware released this week shows a tilt on Cape Cod against the project with about 55.5 percent of 500 respondents in the Cape Cod area opposed and 43.8 percent supporting it.

"We asked why they were against it and most of the reasons were not factually supported," said Willett Kempton, a University of Delaware associate professor of marine policy.

"They expected there would be a substantial environmental impact and a very negative impact on sea creatures and wildlife," he said. "But when it's in place, there is very little if any negative impact under water."

Marine life would grow around the turbines' foundations, Kempton said. "It's probably overall a positive impact."

A U.S. Army Corps of Engineers study estimates the blades would kill about 360 birds yearly. "When you compare that to wildlife damage from burning the equivalent amount of fossil fuels, it's far less," he said.

Audra Parker of the Alliance to Protect Nantucket Sound said the turbines would hurt tourism, views and property values and complicate air and sea navigation.

Mark Rodgers of Cape Wind says the turbines would be spaced a third of a mile (km) apart to make them safe for navigation.

He said the project would generate $25 million in annual energy savings. Denmark's offshore wind farms, similar to Cape Wind's proposal, have had little effect on property values, he added. The turbines would appear as specks from the shoreline, he said.

An unusual alliance has formed to block the project in Congress, including Kennedy and two Alaska Republicans.

The blocking provisions would give Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a likely Republican candidate for the White House who strongly opposes the project, veto power over the wind farm.

Future offshore wind projects are likely to go ahead even if Cape Wind fails, said Paul Flemming, analyst at Energy Security Analysis Inc.

More than 2,400 megawatts of wind energy production -- enough to power about 650,000 homes -- was added to the U.S. power grid in 2005. "In the high-gas price environment it is becoming especially viable," he said.
KarenB
Rox, I don't live on the Cape either but the Roseate Tern , the Piping Plover
and the North Atlantic right whale are endangered species. Would the vibrations
from these wind turbines interfere with them? I know those pushing them will
probably say no....but do they know.

Every article I've read about the wind turbines in that area are going to be over
400 feet tall. They never said how far out of the water they'll be.

Thanks for this article.
flydangler
QUOTE(KarenB @ Apr 27 2006, 11:00 AM)
Would the vibrations
from these  wind turbines interfere with them?
Not accordin' to the Massachusetts Audubon Society accordin' to this story in the Cape Cod Times.
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They never said how far out of the water they'll be
Methinks the map below indicates they'll be out quite a ways. There's more info here too. Sorry I couldn't find a better map, but that site has links to more extensive info on locations as well.


Map of the proposed Nantucket Sound wind turbine site, recently revised


Methinks Senator Kerry, whose vacation home in the islands would also have its line of sight affected, is also opposed to 'em. Funny how politicians who advocate so strongly for alternative sources of energy change their tune if it affects their ocean view, eh?
rox63
QUOTE(flydangler @ Apr 27 2006, 06:28 PM)
Methinks Senator Kerry, whose vacation home in the islands would also have its line of sight affected, is also opposed to 'em. Funny how politicians who advocate so strongly for alternative sources of energy change their tune if it affects their ocean view, eh?
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Actually, Kerry hasn't officially taken a position (positive or negative) on the Cape Wind venture. But he has opposed legislation (proposed by Sen Stevens of Alaska) that would make it more difficult to get offshore wind farms approved. Kerry's Nantucket home is not in the line of site of the proposed turbines. Senator Kennedy's home does face the proposed location of the turbines. And Kennedy is adamently against the Cape Wind project.
flydangler
QUOTE(rox63 @ Apr 27 2006, 08:20 PM)
Actually, Kerry hasn't officially taken a position (positive or negative) on the Cape Wind venture
No, but if I remember correctly he let it slip in a radio interview some months back that he was probably opposed to the sitin' of some of the turbines, eh? Methinks 'twas on the Dan Yorke show on WPRO (Yorke came here from western MA and knows Kerry pretty well).

Methinks 'twas Yorke that asked 'bout it ruinin' Kerry's ocean view, and Kerry didn't respond in any way. This is all from memory, and I ain't 100% sure 'tis correct, but that's what I recall hearin', eh? Hadn't really ever gave it much thought 'til this thread kinda made me think 'bout it.
Alexander38
QUOTE(KarenB @ Apr 27 2006, 04:00 PM)
Rox, I don't live on the Cape either but the Roseate Tern , the Piping Plover
and the North Atlantic right whale are endangered species.  Would the vibrations
from these  wind turbines interfere with them?  I know those pushing them will
probably say no....but do they know. 

Every article I've read about the wind turbines in that area are going to be over
400 feet tall.  They never said how far out of the water they'll be. 

Thanks for this article.
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First of let me say that both sides should take and contact their opposite number here in Denmark since we virtually inventet the concept and is also by far the biggest windmill producer in the world.

The negatives is fairly simple. Yes there is seabirds (Mostly migrating) that gets killed every year by the turbines, but the longerliving species of birds learns about them already after 2-3 years and is even beginning to take advantage of them as resting places.
The do make noice but that is one of the reasons why you place them that far out in the first place.

The pros besides the energy is also fairly simple. they makes wonderful miniature reefs in otherwise relative barren areas were lots of plankton, alge and small frys can take residence, to the delight of local seabirds by the way. And it seems (Still early days yet) that it is also a positive for sports fishermen since local fishes has relativly more to eat and can become more numerous and grow a little faster due to more small fry and plankton to eat.

Also more plankton and small fry means more food for the whales in the end, the vibrations is not harmful or distressing for the whales the way sonar and chemical pollution is since the Windmills is easily avoided by the sonar of the whales if they go in that far.
KarenB
I hope the MA Audubon Society is right. I'd hate to see us lose the Roseate Tern , Piping Plover and the North Atlantic right whale.
Alexander38
QUOTE(KarenB @ Apr 28 2006, 10:09 PM)
I hope the MA Audubon Society is right.  I'd hate to see us lose the Roseate Tern ,  Piping Plover and the North Atlantic right whale.
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As i mentioned above that is not likely to say the least, in fact by far the greatest danger to most of the small whale species is in fact chemical pollution together whit drift net. since it course spontainous abortions in the whales since far to many embryos is not viable.
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