Zogby Poll: Over 70 Million American Adults Support New 9/11 Investigation

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Mon May 22, 8:00 AM ET

(PRWEB) - Utica, NY (PRWEB) May 22, 2006 -- Although the Bush administration continues to exploit September 11 to justify domestic spying, unprecedented spending and a permanent state of war, a new Zogby poll reveals that less than half of the American public trusts the official 9/11 story or believes the attacks were adequately investigated.

911Truth.org Urges 2006 Reform Candidates to Recognize a Powerful New Constituency

The poll is the first scientific survey of Americans' belief in a 9/11 cover up or the need to investigate possible US government complicity, and was commissioned to inform deliberations at the June 2~4 "9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future" conference in Chicago. Poll results indicate 42% believe there has indeed been a cover up (with 10% unsure) and 45% think "Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success" (with 8% unsure). The poll of American residents was conducted from Friday, May 12 through Tuesday, May 16, 2004. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/- 2.9. All inquiries about questions, responses and demographics should be directed to Zogby International.

According to Janice Matthews, executive director of 911truth.org, "To those who have followed the mounting evidence for US government involvement in 9/11, these results are both heartening and frankly quite amazing, given the mainstream media's ongoing refusal to cover the most critical questions of that day. Our August 2004 Zogby poll of New Yorkers showed nearly half believe certain US officials 'consciously' allowed the attacks to happen and 66% want a fresh investigation, but these were people closest to the tragedy and most familiar with facts refuting the official account. This revelation that so many millions nationwide now also recognize a 9/11 cover up and the need for a new inquiry should be a wake up call for all 2006 political candidates hoping to turn this country around. We think it also indicates Americans are awakening to the larger pattern of deceit that led us into Constitutional twilight and endless war, and that our independent media may have finally come of age."

Poll co-author, W. David Kubiak concurs, saying: "Despite years of relentless media promotion, whitewash and 9/11 Commission propaganda, the official 9/11 story still can't even muster 50% popular support. Since this myth has been the administration's primary source of political and war-making power, this level of distrust has revolutionary implications for everyone working for peace, justice and civil liberties. If we ever hope to reclaim this country, end aggression and restore international respect, we all must finally scrutinize that day when things started to go so terribly wrong. The media and movement leaders ignore this call at their peril, because tens of millions are clearly telling us here they are ready for 9/11 truth."

SCOPE: The poll covered five related areas: 1) Iraq - do Americans think the Bush administration exploited 9/11 to attack Iraq? (44% do, 44% don't); 2) Cover up - did the government and its 9/11 Commission conceal or refuse to investigate evidence that contradicts their official story? (only 48% said no); 3) the collapse of WTC 7, which was not even mentioned by the 9/11 Commission and has seldom been reported in the media---had respondents been aware of this collapse and, if so, did they think it should be investigated (only 52% had known about it, but over 70% of this group believe it should have been investigated); 4) new investigation of official complicity - do respondents think we need one? (only 48% said no); and 5) mass media - how do people rate its performance, including its coverage of alternative 9/11 theories, unanswered questions and inquiry issues? (43% rate it positively, 55% negatively).

(The poll sponsors see knowledge of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 as a bellwether issue, because if people do not know this elementary fact, they have probably not been exposed to any independent 9/11 research at all. Because the number of respondents who support a new investigation of 9/11 (45%)) is roughly the same as the number who knew about the collapse of Building 7 (52%), it can reasonably be extrapolated that if the entire public were exposed to independent 9/11 research, about 90 percent would support a new investigation of the events of that fateful day.)

SPONSOR: 911truth.org is a coalition of researchers, journalists and victim family members working to expose and answer the hundreds of still unresolved questions concerning 9/11, especially the nearly 400 questions that the Family Steering Committee filed with the 9/11 Commission. Initially welcomed by the commissioners as their "road map," these queries cut to the heart of 9/11 crimes and accountability, specifically raising the central issues of motive, means and cui bono (who profited?). The Commission ultimately ignored 80% of these issues, however, opting only to explore system failures, miscommunications and incompetence. The victim families' most incisive questions remain unaddressed to this day.

For more information on the Chicago "9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming our Future" conference and other developments, see http://www.911truth.org and http://911revealingthetruth.org or contact our media coordinator, Michael Berger, at 314-308-4893.

* Numerical computations conservatively based on 2000 Census data citing 174 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64.

Survey Methodology: Zogby America, 5/12/06 through 5/16/06

This is a telephone survey of adults nationwide conducted by Zogby International. The target sample is 1,200 interviews with approximately 81 questions asked. Samples are randomly drawn from telephone cd’s of national listed sample. Zogby International surveys employ sampling strategies in which selection probabilities are proportional to population size within area codes and exchanges. As many as six calls are made to reach a sampled phone number. Cooperation rates are calculated using one of AAPOR’s approved methodologies1 and are comparable to other professional public-opinion surveys conducted using similar sampling strategies.2 Weighting by region, party, age, race, religion, and gender is used to adjust for non-response. The margin of error is +/- 2.9 percentage points. Margins of error are higher in sub-groups.

Zogby International’s sampling and weighting procedures also have been validated through its political polling: more than 95% of the firm’s polls have come within 1% of actual election-day outcomes.

OK, I give up, since this was a May 2004 poll and Bush won the elction what conclusion is it supposed to lead me to? By the way, it was also during a publicity blitz for the Michael Moore movie which could easily spike the numbers.

If there were recent polls and trends it could be meaningful.

I guess your right. Those 42% don't matter anymore.

70% of Americans believe there was a cover-up of the JFK Assassination. Yet nothing was ever done until the 70's when Congress investigated and repudiated the Warren Commission's findings in large measure. Still, nothing was done. I fear nothing will be done here. The spiriting away of the evidence was a smoking gun for me along with Bush and Cheney's absurd, secret, joint, untranscripted and unsworn testimony.

Not if they're using the same kind of "logic" you just tried to pull!

Show me where a reliable poll says it's 42% now NOT two years ago and I'll grant we're talking about roughly that portion of the population. Show me a series of polls that shows how it's trending and I'll get some meaningful information out of it.

this says

Survey Methodology: Zogby America, 5/12/06 through 5/16/06

Right, but the survey quoted was in 2004, the footnote on methodology is unrelated.

Could it be a simple typographical error?

http://www.911truth.org/images/911TruthZog...FinalReport.htm

Date: May 17, 2006

From: Rebecca Wittman
rebecca@zogby.com
RE: Results from nationwide poll

Survey Methodology: Zogby America, 5/12/06 through 5/16/06

The rest of this is at the link.

See more at http://www.911blogger.com/ ....

Sorry I replied out of total irritation. The poll is brand new btw. Where do you get the 04 date from?

From what you posted, IT SAYS the poll was conducted in May 2004 before it gets into the breakdown. (now that I've said that it might be after pert of the breakdown, but more internals came after this data)

this is on the current page on the website...2006...
This is CURRENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY SHOULD KNOW AS THEY COMMISSIONED THE ORG. TO DO THE POLLING (one of the most reliable polling orgs. in the world.)
http://www.911truth.org/

Zogby Poll Finds Over 70 Million Voting Age Americans Support New 9/11 Investigation


May 22, 2006

BREAKING ...

New 911Truth.org-commissioned Zogby Poll reveals over 70 million voting age Americans distrust official 9/11 story and support new investigation of possible US government role in the attacks.*

At first I was inclined to discount that because 2004 shows up in several places, but Friday May 12 is indeed a 2006 date. Now the new york city poll is certainly 2004 as it isn't August yet.

They only gave half of most of the numbers so I tend to view any conclusion with skepticism, especially where it appears that exploiting it after the fact is being lumped in with complicity (although it's really depressing that that number wasn't near 100%)

I think that 10% who are unsure is very telling of the direction of the 9/11 truth movement. We are gaining ground and those of you who still believe the "official story" could soon find yourselves in the minority.

High oh Silver Away! Damn straight we need a thorough investigation...!!!!!

I never believed a word that came out of Bush's or any of his associate's mouths. I never will. If he said the sun rose in the east. I'd re-check my own knowledge. I don't put anything past him and his cronies.

I am definitely for another investigation. This time an independent one. Unfortunately even if the poll said 90% wanted another investigation it wouldn't matter. This is no longer a Republic. Bush has grabbed absolute power.

The people need to awaken. Call your reps and Senators. Demand Paper trail voting at the very least. Speak out when you can. Vote.

Beyond that; only the patriots among our government officials, who know what has been done can save us.

Tomhye, if you read the full Yahoo news report (also posted in the 9/11 thread), I think you'll agree it's a typical case of genuinely poor or hasty American newswriting. There was a 2004 poll to which the results were compared, but that isn't crystal clear from the "piece". The date of this new data is clearly 2006, the poll was commissioned by some 9/11 truthers, and the press release they wrote shows a little too much enthusiasm and not enough clarity. The news article was written from the press release (an all too-common-practice these days). Nevertheless, Zogby stands behind it, and the data appear to be (at a casual glance, at least) statistically valid and relevant, especially given the timing of the survey and its proximity with the release of the Pentagon videos and other "breaking" stuff from the 9/11 world. And I have a feeling there's more coming on a weekly, if no tdaily, basis. There are two new films out, two more in the pipeline (one with some "evidence", not just a recounting), and then there's its tie-in with other "matters".

Have you guys seen this new footage yet? This is the smoking gun.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...q=9%2F11%20bomb

This is footage of the firefighters telling people to leave because there are bombs in the building.

Why didn't these people just provide the url for the Zogby organization, if they did the poll? I'm not saying they made this all up, but why not make it easy for us to look at it unfiltered? I might check this out later myself.

You go check it out Arne. We'll wait here.

Here is one Zogby poll. It looks like one of them was taken in 2004. I'll have to try to look for the other one mentioned (presumably the one taken this year) later.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

I could not get your link to play so am adding one I found of the same iincident-

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/m.../220506bomb.htm

It looks like they don't have their most recent polls on the Zogby site yet. But it looks like the poll covered a range of issues so you probably won't find it by doing a "9/11" search. However, the last time I checked, Yahoo was a reputable news source and I'm sure they would'nt write an article about poll numbers they couldn't validate.

My problem wouldn't be that I suspect Yahoo is lying. I don't think it likely that they would. But they could be leaving out some key points of the poll, and even be doing that unintentionally.

Writing just from the release is a bit beyond poor or hasty, it's negligent. I can understand it if it's just some chain saying they're opening 5 more stores, but if it's involving a poll or anything else that can be checked they have the duty to look for anything that was left out. Will they run a poll from here saying how many people think Bush will do anything for his lover Cheney extrapolated out? Will they run anything the White House releases without any checking?

Yeah, that's why I tend not to read the source pieces, so overenthusiastic, preachy and one sided that you wade through piles of garbage to grab a fact or two. i even felt that way about most of the stuff in the Kerry campaign 9although total lack of data was a more common problem).

Then there's the problem of exactly how questions are asked, we have problems with that in our polls and we're all somewhat used to how each other use words and phrases. How often do we have to read the threads to know this vote would've been that in my book?

By the way are you sure Yahoo just wrote from the release or is it just what you surmise? It makes sense to me from the way it came out, just want to know level of certainty.

Okay .. I have a subscription to Zogby. I've just spent an hour reading through anything I thought might have 9/11 connection with this info and come up empty. Doesn't mean it's not there, but I can't find it.

Guess its time to renew.

It's funny of all the people on the board to have that happen to, who are currently here, it is you

And yesterday it was funny that one poster thought it was a 2004 poll when clearly it was from this week the article and the poll was current


I never liked the straw man in Oz...the cowardly lion was my favorite especially when he jumped out the window, and then there was a commercial, and he was all fine afterward (seems the window was on the first floor???)

But I didn't see no plane hit the pentagon either, doesn't mean it's not there, but I couldn't find it and neither did anyone who watched the video or saw any of the photos

If someone has photos, btw, they should still post them, dontcha think in general?

Actually its a very easy answer---
Zogby takes polls for their own org. and they are contacted and do polls for other organizations.
The polls Zogby does for themselves are on their own site.
The polls Zogby does independently as the polltaker, for others, are on others site, and its exclusive (which is how Zogby makes money.)
The polling techniques are all the same, and one is as legitamate as the others

But of course, when someone wants the subject change, they focus on a minutia thing that they would never focus on when there is something they are in favor of.
So they express doubt.

This is a time honored George Herbert Walker Bush41 trick of mind warping worthy of Yoda and all that hoakum.

The poll is legit.

Of course, 19 bumbling pilots did not do a military style precision hit on 2 buildings and had 4 collapse, followed by a mysterious passport from heaven in perfect condition floating down naming the hyjackers

Since it said it was a 2004 poll what's odd about thinking it was?

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm



I'm sorry, but if I see someone mentioning certain poll results, I like to see the entire results before I draw conclusions. I prefer to make my own interpretation as to the meaning, and not have someone else make that interpretation for me. You can call that illegitimate, but I think that is a reasonable question.



Comparisons with demonized figures are not such legitimate tactics in my book. (Nikita Krhushchev supports progressive income taxes, therefore...)



No one is saying that it isn't. I just wanted to see the full results.



That is your interpretation of the facts, not everyone agrees with that. And you cannot dismiss them so easily as saying that they are in league with Bush.

what % of Americans still believe in Alein abductions and UFO's from ourter space?

could it be the same...41%?

who knows?

shadow?

This quote is taken from your snopes link.



I think you need to re-read it. If you can show me a picture taken on the same day of the attack of a helipad that looks like a boeing slammed into it at the pentagon I will send you 100 dollars via pay pal.

Writing just from the release is a bit beyond poor or hasty, it's negligent.

Agreed. But then we live in an age of a lazy and negligent media which operates from press releases, video press releases engineered from within policy centers but made to look like "news" (many examples from within the White House there), and from "talking points" that are faxed from many places.

Will they run anything the White House releases without any checking?

Happens every day, at many news outlets. Haven't you been paying attention? Let's invite Novak, Miller, and others into this discussion.

... just want to know level of certainty.

Here's a primary source for my "read" of the picture about the poll, what it was, when it was done, who paid for it, how the story was compiled, what the questions were (in concept, if not in detail), and what the results show.

http://www.911blogger.com/

There are affiliated comments sections and boards, and links to other places there as well.

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In the end, we can question everything (and should).

I think that the simple fact of the matter, which this poll attempted to portray, is that there is a large plurality of people in the United States who question some aspect of the "official story" about 9/11, who believe that the government is covering up something, who understand that the "investigations" thus far undertaken have not covered all the territory, or covered it well, and that there are numerous questions with which the purveyors of "the official story" and the available information and evidence don't match up or align.

This volume of people, easily measured in the tens of millions no matter which poll you use, belies the claptrap about a few crazy tin-foiled-hatted conspiracy theorists and also sits in contrast to the failure of the mainstream media to seriously address or discuss any part of the emerging mountain of information about 9/11, or its ties to Plamegate, the NSA matter, et al.

Nitpicking the factors behind a minor-league poll doesn't make the growing concerns and questions of the American people about their government disappear.

What about all the people driving on the roads who saw the plane?

Graham asked about posting pictures, so I posted them. He didn't ask about the helipad. I didn't know about the helipad, and I don't know where a picture of it that day might be. That doesn't mean that the helipad wasn't hit just as described.

You know what Graham.. you have such contempt for me, I'll do you a huge favor. You've gotten so snarky to certain people it's not a wonder... we go somewhere else.

Consider me cancelled.

Okay, Magmak, your link seems to be as reasonable a summary of the poll as we normally see in any reputable newspaper. What you just showed was basically what I wanted to see, I just thought that one would be able to find at from Zogby directly.

What about all the people driving who didn't?

How come someone can see without hitting the car in front of them

As said my mother in law swears she saw the 1st plane hit the WTC live on tv that morning as she was waiting for Regis
THAT MORNING. NOT ANOTHER NOT LATER. THAT MORNING.

How could she see the 1st plane hit?
TV only covered it afterwards.
No one saw

You were told a plane hit
YOu believe what you are told

Bush lied, 100,000 people have died

The data on this poll is solid, unless you think Zogby is a fraud altogether.
Because it is an independent poll put out by zogby

The best thing the GOP could do to ensure it's victory in 2006 is drive voters to this site and in particular threads like this one.

I REMEMBER THE PlANE A FEW YEARS BACK THAT WENT DOWN IN THE WATERS IN DC AFTER TAKE OFF. PEOPLE SAW IT AND RUSHED TO HELP.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SAID THEY SAW A PLANE GOING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON AND HEARD THE EXPLOSION AND WENT TO HELP.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SAW THE CIA SHOOTER WHILE DRIVING. THEY WENT TO HELP.

THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO SAW THE WTC ATTACKS AND WENT TO HELP.

POLLS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK HAPPENED AT THE PENTAGON ON 9-11 ARE IRRELEVANT TO WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED UNLESS YOU SEEK CONTROVERSY


ANSWER ME THIS...WERE THE WTC AND PENTAGON ATTACKES STAGED BY THE SAME PEOPLE OR DIFFERENT GROUPS? HMMMMMMMMM, ...........

Where did you post pictures of what you saw at the pentagon?

Which is what we were asking the other day

Never saw yours or anyone's

I have never once saw a plane at the pentagon

BTW-how many more collateral damage people were killed in the name of collateral damage by the bush administration in just the last 3 days alone worldwide?

How many poor Muslims and Arabs have had their families torn apart?

Why did we menace an area in Afghanastan and kill 49 people this past weekend?

What did we accomplish except for Bushieboo to get a sound byte???

How many more will die in vain?

LAST AUGUST I DROVE THROUGH DC DURING RUSH HOUR. I SAT IN TRAFFIC FOR A VERY LONG TIME. TRAVERSING A FEW MILES TOOK FOREVER

THERE ARE PHOTOS OF A PLANE CRASHING INTO THE PENTAGON. I'VE SEEN THEM

HELLO, NSA?

People do have a thing known as side vision. People do see things besides the care in front of them, such as road signs, the scenery that they're passing, etc. As far as the people who didn't see the plane, if you come into my house, but I was looking the other way and didn't notice you, did you actually come into my house?

Planes come through that area all of the time, there is an airport there. I really don't think that people would have seen a plane or two go overhead, heard the news, and then thought the plane they saw was the one unless it was doing something very different. (They might have wondered, but few would have said, "I saw the plane!") Your mother-in-law did see a plane hitting one of the WTC towers, she just got the circumstances wrong (circumstances not obvious from what she saw).

The traffic in Virginia sucks, doesn't it

I fully blame Mark Warner for that. It is a governor's job to insure the traffic flows.

And he was Governor last August.

If you can't move the roads, you should not be President.

I remember sitting for a while too and not moving anything, but I was constapated at the time...bada bing

So the pictures that are in that link are therefore not valid? They were taken on that day, mine was taken months later. Are you saying that if something is not in a picture taken by a forum member that it doesn't exist? Perhaps nothing hit the Pentagon, there was no damage by anything.



You haven't seen me, does that mean I don't exist?

Can you swear that you didn't see any planes that day?

The Bush Administration wasn't in office long enough to plan anything by the time of 9-11 let alone a coordinated attack along with al qaeda.

Does anyone here even remember what is was like in politics up until 9-10?

This site is turning into a GOP recruiting tool. I was thinking of becoming an independent, but I don't like fence sitting....pickets up my butt don'tdo "it" for me.