The Republican base's border crisis position is to fence them out. Until we dry up the well, they will find ways around our fences. Show me a 50 foot fence, and I will show you a 51 foot ladder. Not to mention, it's just insensitive to illegal immigrants. Illegal doesn't mean unjustified. We shouldn't blame them for wanting to come here.

The Republican leadership elite (not up for reelection) border crisis position is that it's not a crisis. They want open borders for cheap labor. They're the ones trying to make it a race issue, when it's a citizenship issue. If they can't afford to pay decent wages, then they should automate.

The Democratic border crisis position is to let them stay, and take care of them while they are here, while trying to fence out future illegal immigrants. Democrats think our economy depends on cheap labor. We will never fence them out as long as we are willing to take care of them and use them for cheap labor. What Democrats should be against is exploitation of cheap labor.

A progressive position would solve the problem. It's simple. Supply and Demand on both sides of the border. Supply and Demand in America is the supply of jobs and the demand for cheap labor. Supply in demand in Mexico is the supply of cheap labor and the demand for work.

You can't entirely blame Mexico for the problems with their government. You definitely can't blame their poor citizens for wanting to cross any more than you can blame our poor citizens for wanting to fence them out. But we shouldn't enable them either. We can't stop Mexico's supply of cheap labor, but we can stop our demand for cheap labor by enforcing our labor and citizenship laws. This would dry up the well they drink from. It's either that or let our own corporations dry up the well we drink from.

We have a demand for cheap labor that we need to deal with first. Until we do, we will have a border crisis or no border at all. Unions and automation are the only solutions to the cheap labor demand. Unions protect workers. Automation meets business' cheap labor demand. Law enforcement needs to keep businesses from going around the unions for cheap labor. Businesses need to make a choice, either automate or hire legal union workers for at least a minimum wage.

This would stop our supply of cheap labor jobs while filling our demand for cheap labor. Once our demand for cheap labor is dealt with, it would stop the supply of Mexico's supply of cheap labor from having a reason to come across our borders. This would let Mexico to deal with their own corruption and economic problems. If America is part of Mexico's problem, it should be dealt with in the State Department, not the Labor and Law Enforcement Departments.

Enforce our laws and we won't need amnesty. We wouldn't need tighter fences either because international criminals and terrorists would be the only ones with a reason to sneak across. They would be easier to spot with the decrease in traffic across the border.

Your thoughts?

Okay. Let's stop wasting $2 Billion a week in Iraq, getting our troops killed and blown apart, and let's invest the money on manufacturing plants in Mexico. It's a lot closer than China; surely the big, bulky things like furniture, microwave ovens, barbecues, etc etc could be built there.

We could call it BushMart.

And BushMart could pay the Mexicans a decent wage so they could stay in Mexico with their families (which is the preference of a lot of them)

Some of the Mexicans who come here WANT to come here. To them I say, Welcome to America - - the land of opportunity.

Some of the Mexicans only come here for the $$$. They live ten to a room, work for low wages, pay FICA tax that they will never see, and send HALF of what they make back home to support their families.

"Remittance" is now a LARGER source of foreign exchange than OIL for Mexico.

the marines don't need a ladder to get over a fence they been using a rope for years in basic lol

You make a good point. Just the money we wasted in Iraq could have made us much safer at home by turning around both ours and Mexico's economy combined. That alone would have given us less of a reason to piss off other countries and the terrorists they harbor.