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Noonan
Democrats Will Try To Cut Cheney Out Of Executive Funding (UPDATED)
By Joe Gandelman



Since Vice President Dick Cheney is insisting his office isn’t part of the executive branch, the Democrats have decided to take legislative action to take away its executive branch funding.

And Democratic Caucus Chairman Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill) has also released a graphic that shows the “new” set up of the United States government with its newest self-declared branch. SEE EMANUEL’S GRAPHIC ABOVE.

As we said earlier, this story is not over yet:

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Following Vice President Dick Cheney’s assertion that his office is not a part of the executive branch of the US government, Democratic Caucus Chairman Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) plans to introduce an amendment to the the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations bill to cut funding for Cheney’s office.

The amendment to the bill that sets the funding for the executive branch will be considered next week in the House of Representatives.

“The Vice President has a choice to make. If he believes his legal case, his office has no business being funded as part of the executive branch,” said Emanuel in a statement released to RAW STORY. “However, if he demands executive branch funding he cannot ignore executive branch rules. At the very least, the Vice President should be consistent. This amendment will ensure that the Vice President’s funding is consistent with his legal arguments.”
“Consistent” — what’s that?

See our earlier post HERE.

UPDATE: Prominent conservative blogger Ed Morrissey is following this controversy and doesn’t like what he sees. A small bit of a post that should be read in full:

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American culture and identity was formed on the basis that no man is above the law, not even Presidents and Vice-Presidents. If the executive order puts too much burden on the White House, then Bush should revoke or amend it, and explain why it’s necessary to do so. Stop trying to pretend that the VP is a member of the legislature and playing damaging games….

….Arguing that the VP belongs to the legislative branch either looks like desperation or a Constitutional illiteracy that should disturb everyone, not just Democrats.


Glenn Reynolds, Instapundit, also has a long post written by him not just as a blogger but as someone who is also a law professor.

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It too should be read in full because quoting it takes it too much out of context. Here part of it:
Whatever executive power a VP exercises is exercised because it’s delegated by the President, not because the VP has it already. So to the extent the President delegates actual power (as opposed to just taking recommendations for action) the VP is exercising executive authority delegated by the President, but unlike everyone else who does so he/she isn’t subject to removal from office by the President (though the President could always withdraw the delegation, of course). However — and here’s where the claim that Cheney is really a legislative official creates problems for the White House — it seems pretty clear that the President isn’t allowed to delegate executive power to a legislative official, as that would be a separation of powers violation. So to the extent that this is what’s going on, the “Cheney is a legislative official” argument is one that opens a big can of worms…

…..None of this is to say that the President can’t, in his own capacity, decide to apply different rules to the VP (who, after all, is an elected official, unlike cabinet secretaries, NSC staffers, and the like) if he chooses. But that’s a different issue entirely from the “legislative official” angle. Like a lot of the Bush Administration’s arguments, this is one that would make an interesting law school paper topic, or law review article, but that is politically idiotic and legally self-defeating. It’s reminiscent, as one of Capt. Ed’s commenters notes, of the Clinton Administration’s effort to stall Paula Jones’ lawsuit by claiming that as Commander-in-Chief the President is a serving member of the military. Clever, in a way. But definitely not smart.


Read it all.
rla
Some interesting stuff. It is time to support Kucinich's legislation to impeach Chenny. It is critical to get him out of office before Bush II is impeached or resigns.
Noonan
Why my executive order doesn't apply to the unitary executive, by George W. Bush
by Kagro X

You remember this from this morning, right?

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Bush claims oversight exemption too
The White House says the president's own order on classified data does not apply to his office or the vice president's.
By Josh Meyer, Times Staff Writer
June 23, 2007

WASHINGTON — The White House said Friday that, like Vice President Dick Cheney's office, President Bush's office is not allowing an independent federal watchdog to oversee its handling of classified national security information.

An executive order that Bush issued in March 2003 — amending an existing order — requires all government agencies that are part of the executive branch to submit to oversight. Although it doesn't specifically say so, Bush's order was not meant to apply to the vice president's office or the president's office, a White House spokesman said.
I just thought it was weird to say the order wasn't meant to apply to the President or the Vice President, considering that they appear...

here:

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Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:

(1) the President and, in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President;


and here...

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[Sec. 1.3.©](2) "Top Secret" original classification authority may be delegated only by the President; in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President; or an agency head or official designated pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section.

(3) "Secret" or "Confidential" original classification authority may be delegated only by the President; in the performance of executive duties, the Vice President; or an agency head or official designated pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section; or the senior agency official described in section 5.4(d) of this order, provided that official has been delegated "Top Secret" original classification authority by the agency head.


and here...

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[Sec. 3.1.]© If the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office determines that information is classified in violation of this order, the Director may require the information to be declassified by the agency that originated the classification. Any such decision by the Director may be appealed to the President through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. The information shall remain classified pending a prompt decision on the appeal.


and here...

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[Sec. 3.3.© An agency head shall notify the President through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs of any specific file series of records for which a review or assessment has determined that the information within that file series almost invariably falls within one or more of the exemption categories listed in paragraph (cool.gif of this section and which the agency proposes to exempt from automatic declassification.

[...]

The President may direct the agency head not to exempt the file series or to declassify the information within that series at an earlier date than recommended. File series exemptions previously approved by the President shall remain valid without any additional agency action.


and... well, you get the idea. The President and/or the Vice President have roles, tasks, responsibilities, obligations and entitlements prescribed for them no less than 30 times in this document.

But... none of it applies to them. No siree, Bob.

Move along, people. Nothing to see here. Look! It's the B.F. Goodrich blimp! And it's getting an expensive haircut!
Noonan
And While We're at It, Let's Take Away Their Security Clearance
by emptywheel

Mimikatz already posted Rahm's first response to Cheney's wicked theories that he is a branch of government unto himself. And mcjoan has posted his second response.

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House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel issued the following statement regarding his amendment to cut funding for the Office of the Vice President from the bill that funds the executive branch. The legislation – the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations bill -- will be considered on the floor of the House of Representatives next week.

"The Vice President has a choice to make. If he believes his legal case, his office has no business being funded as part of the executive branch. However, if he demands executive branch funding he cannot ignore executive branch rules. At the very least, the Vice President should be consistent. This amendment will ensure that the Vice President's funding is consistent with his legal arguments. I have worked closely with my colleagues on this amendment and will continue to pursue this measure in the coming days."
But I'd like to call attention to the recommendation Bill Leonard made last year when wrestling with these creeps.

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Furthermore, if OVP is not to be considered an entity within the executive branch, I am concerned that this could possibly impede access to classified information by OVP staff, since such access would be considered a disclosure outside the executive branch. [my emphasis]


For the record, I've seen Leonard speak twice. He strikes me as a diligent, frustrated straight-shooter--if this is snark, it is sawdust dry. But I think we could have some fun if we find some way to threaten those sending OVP classified information with violations of their security clearance. Think about it--they won't be able to start their Iran war without targeting information. Condi might manage to shut down Gitmo if Cheney remains uninformed of the meetings to shut it down.

There's the problem that, so long as Bush is willing to put up with Cheney's little theories, executive branch agencies (the ones with all the classified info, after all) would get beat up if they refuse Cheney information. Still--it's a worthy idea, one the bureaucrats sick of Cheney's reign might enjoy.
graham4anything
Hey, Cheney is still there and he could theoretically be with Freddie on the ticket.
Why not? He will just tell people he doesn't exist at all.
rla
I think the democratic congressional leadership should stop this game playing and put this energy behind pushing Kucinich's bill to impeach Cheny. It would be a beter way to make all this information about Chenney public, whatever the outcome of the effort.
cutecat
I don't know where the discussion of the Washington Post series is but it is just what the congress needs to investigate Cheney's misuse of his office.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/chapter_1/

Just past the Oval Office, in the private dining room overlooking the South Lawn, Vice President Cheney joined President Bush at a round parquet table they shared once a week. Cheney brought a four-page text, written in strict secrecy by his lawyer. He carried it back out with him after lunch.

In less than an hour, the document traversed a West Wing circuit that gave its words the power of command. It changed hands four times, according to witnesses, with emphatic instructions to bypass staff review. When it returned to the Oval Office, in a blue portfolio embossed with the presidential seal, Bush pulled a felt-tip pen from his pocket and signed without sitting down. Almost no one else had seen the text.

Cheney's proposal had become a military order from the commander in chief. Foreign terrorism suspects held by the United States were stripped of access to any court -- civilian or military, domestic or foreign. They could be confined indefinitely without charges and would be tried, if at all, in closed "military commissions."

"What the hell just happened?" Secretary of State Colin L. Powell demanded, a witness said, when CNN announced the order that evening, Nov. 13, 2001. National security adviser Condoleezza Rice, incensed, sent an aide to find out. Even witnesses to the Oval Office signing said they did not know the vice president had played any part.
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