One of the highly valued Public Service Functions of CGCS is to Generate vehichles that will Organize Information from a Diversity of Sources, into Purposefull Exploration, Understanding and Action Upon the Socio-political Environment we find ourselves in...

Is it working for enough people? Sometimes I wonder.

Thanks for asking, grammydidi...I am inspired by your consistent seeking for what is going on...
I had the outline of a concept Paper in my head when the phone call set me in another direction...An
Information Processing Model of Personing in the US of A Social System and its encompassing Human Social System...

The Life Space of Individual Persons and any Aggregate of Persons (Nation) may be represented by a 3-Dimensional Matrix of Height (Time) X Width (Domains) X Depth (Dark to Light)...which is
Un-aware to Aware...Our Individual need to Understand supports our Identity, Stimulation/Activation Level and our Individual and collective Security...I think I can reconstruct most of the supporting
details and stream of thought...I want to check the rest of the board first...

To put it pluntly, as Individuals and as a Nation, How well are we doing at staying on Purpose and setting and achieving Life Goals, with fun, effective and efficient Strategies and Tactics?

I promised an Information Processing Model of Personing-in-the-social system...

<--> FEEDFORWARD
-------->Purpose & Goals
-------->Strategies & Tactics

<--> INPUT
-------->Perceive & Integrate Sensory Inputs
-------->Conceptualize Sensory Inputs, emotional feelings and Organismic Valuing

<--> PROCESS

------->Inductive Thinking
------->Deductive Thinking

<--> OUTPUT
------->Assertive Style
------->Integrated Response

<-->FEEDBACK

------->Monitor Change in the Inline of the Self and Outline of the Situation
------->Channel Results into Purposeful Feed Forward

I hope to develop each of these topics and would appreciate your general or specific input...

What Good is a Model...why not just do it like other Mammals? The Organism, John, Dick or Harriet
inherrited the genetic programing and hardware for carrying on a Self-in-Situation
Adaptation Process in a minimumly Facilitative Human Social System...Family, Community
and Nation-among-nations...The psyco-social-political concepts & skills for extending and
developing this genetic structure of Exploration, Understanding and Action comes from a Facilitative
Social System providing Support and a Well deliniated Menue of Concepts, Skills and Resources
for Creating and Maintaining One's Self-in-Situation Adapation Across All Domains of Life, through Time.

We 300 million of those mammals inhabit these (dis)United States of America.

We are born, grow up, reproduce, get old, and die.

Always have.

Visit any cemetery and it's all the same: John Doe, 1923 - 1988

Well, we know what John was doing in 1923 and in 1988; what we don't know is about the dash which represents his entire life. Did he leave the world in better shape than he found it? Did he help his fellow man along his journey? Did he kill people? Did he create plenty for himself while disregarding those less fortunate than he?

Perhaps the only thing or things you can find agreement with here in America is the notion of a meritocracy (give everybody a chance to get rich) even though we all know that the dice are loaded. And that most people want a better life for their kids.

How we accomplish those two shared creeds is subject to a lot of debate.

Which is a debate we are NOT HAVING.

So if we can have it here, count me in.

Otherwise, I can turn on the TV to find out how much money Hillary has raised, or which rehab program Paris Hilton is currently in.

I liked your use of the concept, "Meritocracy." I have talked about Technocracy being representative of many world governments, including the USA. This Technocracy is being
influenced from the right by eliteism, meritocracy, bureauracy and organized crime and from the left by Technology Specialists, Bottoms-Up Marketing, Management & Organizational
Development Practitioners and Dis-organized crime in the world of Consulting and small and large contracts Negotiations...
Technology Specialists, Bottoms-Up Marketing

Not! as well as most of us wish...

We each one individually and all of us collectively are developing our concept of the Person...How we are, and how other Persons are...Our Self-concept and World View is recorded in our interactions
with the social system...Some Persons seem to be very affraid of protecting their space or reaching
out to others for mutual benefit or to give a compliment...gather social support to do the fearful deed anyway...untill you extinguish the strength and frequency of the fear responses...
and of other Persons

I would add...and to seek constantly for a higher and wider View, with more debth & light...this
means looking further into additional rows and columns of the Life Space Matrix...Things really are as simple as they seem...when & where One looks...

We (as supporting the progressive & liberal Movement) need to pay attention to what Networks our Friends and Associates are active in, as well what Networks our Adversaries (as long as we insist on having them) are active in...Concept Mapping is a promising technology for doing this...

You nailed it. If you want to explore the soul of the average American, look no further than Las Vegas. We live in the casino culture of capitalism.

So much that we are willing to bet their college money on lucky 7.

The question of the question of the nature of human nature is a question that confronts
every Action Plan...
We don't wish to explore the soul of the average American...We wish to explore the Self-system
(soul) of a sample of USAeans, from which one may compute an average...Run away Greed
is certainly a problem in the social system...but not as much so as the general Lack of Trust
and Trust-worthiness in the social system...which one is the cause of the other? Or do they
both have part-whole relations with a larger whole?

This all seems to be set on a left brain or theory.....
second it does not appear to show selective or compartment process of thinking?
does it allow for flow or free thinking Right brain creativity?

I agree with fear of mediocrity but not in the sense of $. I think its the seconds of fame or recognition. If its recorded then we are remembered.

Second the casino attitude's has been around since the 50's; The show the Millionaire where Michael would be sent out to give someone a million dollars and the show would be about squander and regret.

The quick dollar may have substituted for the American Dream but only because it has become a government (Lotteries) supported enterprise.

???Am I following the process or have you all lost me????

more then fear response I have always seen the judgment reaction. Introvert and you gain energy from self, extrovert and you regain strength from others.
I feel we actually have gone from gossip and judging over the back fence to gossip and judgment on line.

I feel that socially we have been subjected to social fear as a base of sheep herding. In order to get what one wants I do not point out the positive or negatives of the action but create fear based on.
generating a fictional result of taking no action. This has successful depleted the use of time ; to evaluate. study, address or group resolve.

They do have a part whole relationship to a larger whole which includes the self-in-situation of opportunity. Where there is an opertunity to be greedy, the average person will be greedy, especially when they are constantly made to feel that they don't have enough. That opportunity is capitalism. Capitalism rewards greed and constantly tells you that you don't have enough through advertisements. The exploitative competitive spirit of capitalism discourages trust.

From an Exploration, Understanding and Action View, of the Human Self-in-Situation
Adaptation Process, an Emerging, Organic, Person-in-a-family, in a Community,Nation
and World...Each & Every Person has an Identity, at a customarry level of Awareness,
to allow for Self-Management of Time & Resources, across all the Domains of Personing in the Social System...Peak Experiences in Life and Other Rapid, Systematic Growth Experiences (Training),expands the Person"s potential custommary Level of Awareness, Stimulation/Activation and Security. The Person is able to maintain a better, "Goodness of Fit," in and off the Situation
that is going on...A Person is not a chunk of Stuff to be used up by Life...not even at the price of being promised another Life, later on (with out proof of capacity to Deliver)...The Person is
an Organic, Intelligently Emerging, Genetically Programmed to Seek Self-in-Situation Adaptation...
This is what Organic Systems Do and Mammals do it Best of All...Humanoids Lead the Parrade
of Evolutionary Cultural Growth and Developent...we have a Profession of Futurists to tell us
what the world is going to be like in 10 years, in 100 years, etc., So the whole of the Arts, Crafts
and Sciences is what we have in our Tool Box, yet the whole Behavior & Experience of the Person
who is mixing and shaking these elements, is more than the sum of its parts...This creation of Energy and Organization, self-referenced by many as Spiritual in nature, is perhaps what some mean by, "Holy Ghost." Persons make the stuff, organismicly...Each & Every Person has a Quiver
of Response Potential Arrows...Persons who systematically increase the quantity and quality of
their set of Response Potentials, for their anticipated Situation, will more likly succeed in Self-Management, Relationship Management, Career Management and Life Space Management...

I agree. However, we need a better name for the boggy man than, "Capitalism."
Capitalism means more than what we're talking about, so that to use the term, "Capitalism
to name what we are talking about doesn't add clarity or specificity or concreteness to
what we're talking about...I think we're mostly talking about the operations of Robber
Barrons at every level & domain of the social system...Better democratic regulation of
our open market Economy is Badly Needed...We need to Plan our Work & Play and work & play our Plan...

Initiatives to Operate the Social System from a more Bottoms-Up Perspective is
sorely needed...Elect Democrats & Independents who are liberated from tradition
sources of authority and committed to the Common Good...

It's not just Robber Barrons working against democracy. There is an infinite supply of Robber Barrons as long as the system allows it. Democracy of the dollar is working against democracy of humanity. People are spending money against their own interest. People are purchasing their own demise.

I understand the feeling, not dealing efficiently and effectively with the paper work and understanding how the systems, of which I am a stakeholder, work, can waste time & money and contribute to my demise...IT is not just Robber Barrons and it is not just Capitalism...it is each and every one of our Self-in-Situation Adaptation Responses, in our imediate social system...Keep your
quiver full of Positive Response Potentials...

Capitalism is not the sum of the problem. It's just the biggest factor. It's the enabler. It's the agreement that greed should have the red carpet treatment.

Un-regulated Capitalism, described as Laissez faire, values property rights over human
rights in general and values Civil Right for those with the socio-economic clout to demand
and enforce them within a strongly Nationalistic and Militariastic State, and F*ck those without clout here at home and the rest of the world. Democratically Regulated Capitalism, recognizing in this information age, that Human Resources Capital, Knowledge & Skills, out weighs the combined traditional sources of Capital from Land, Machinery and Credit (Money) turns the traditional Market Model upside down. From a Tops-down model to a Bottoms-Up model...Economic Democracy in addition to Humanistic Democracy...Thus the Democratic Party Campaign to Democratize the work
place...

Capitalism is not a form of government. I'm starting to think that it's the biggest hinderance to governing known to man. It puts profits before governing. If governing were done right, "governing" would be the profit, AKA the benifit.

The only way I could see at least a fair system of capitalism would be with a completely open, accurate, and honest money system. But with legalized usury, that will never happen.

Capitalism is ________ and it does________?

Capitalism is ________ and it does________?

Capitalism is an agreement that material gain should be the primary goal of each person in society and it does nothing but reward greed.

The question of, "What is the biggest factor?", also drives the Creationism Problem and most other
problems that manage to remain problems, accross multiple domains for long periods of time? With Human Performance, Intelligence (of various types) has been the G Factor(biggest & best
predictor) of Human Behavior & Experience. It only accounts for about 50% of the Variance. Another
portion by personality structure, another by personality states and the remainder by Situational Variables and Error Variance (which can be reliably estimated). Both the concepts of Capitalism
and Socialism exist in the real world but they are not the whole world...in two baskets...we're not talking about concrete & specific Human Behavior and Experience, so that whatever it is that we're talking about, Capitalism is the biggest & most predictive Factor of It...?...What is the it? The Social System at this time and place...emanating out from our address, through out the universe and back...if there's a problem, call 911...

The concept, "Should" is problematic at a descriptive level of discourse...could translate into if, then
statement...

Also, the concept of, "Material Gain," could be made more operational...

There would be no "if then" statements without an initial "should" statement. You can't write a program without a goal. "Should" is the goal.

It is operational through the well-oiled capitalistic machine. What are you suggesting? That we redefine "Material Gain"?

Purpose pushes behavior and goals pull behavior. Goals that express our purpose can
be stated as Objectives of what will be done, not, "should" be done...There is no logical
and empiriacal way to get from an is to an ought or should...

Is this a question or an observation. If it's a question, then the answer is no. Knowing the biggest factor is just a way of choosing your battles wisely. You can't win every battle at the same time.

I think where missing some punctuation here. I'm not sure where the questions begin and the statements end.

On a grand scale, I don't see much difference between purpose and goals except that goals are usually seen as smaller an more componentized. I see purpose and goals as both scaleable and capable of either pushing or pulling.

It takes a wider object to push something than to pull something...

It takes just as much force to either push or pull.

I think our analogy is breaking down here. Could you give me an example of what you consider the dominant purpose effecting society that you are referring to, the dominant goal(s), and if they interact with each other, how so?

It is the purpose of Persons and Nations to Survive & Thrive...Self-maintainance and
Growth...We confirm this Purpose with Goals such as Peace, Prosperity and Wellness and with Strategies such as Humanitarian, Constitutional Democracy with a democratically regulated Market Economy...

That purpose, that meme, is in competition with many other memes offering alternative purposes.

There's the social darwinism meme, the one-dollar one-vote meme, and the imperialism meme, among many others. The Life After Death meme is particularly strong because it never has to prove it's success. It's only assumed.

You first have to get everyone to agree on what is a person or a nation. Most people don't even know where there borders end and there nation begins. And for those who are not holistic, the person is the individual self, nothing more.

I think we went from merritocracy to Mediocrity...

The way to get more people agreed on what a person is and what a nation is, to get them aware of the Modeling Process and engage them in Modeling, conceptually, what Personing in the Nation is...
Thats what I'm trying to do...

PARAMETERS OF PERSONING IN THE HUMAN SOCIAL SYSTEM

Each & Every Person must choose between inhabiting a God owned & operated Universe
or an Emerging, Evolutionary Universe...Choosing either way does not shut down the
Person's Spirituality, as a part of what & who that Person is and is becoming, in the Social
System...By Living Life, each Person perceives & defines a Self-concept & World-view and
the Person's Place in it...This occurs as a function of emergent evolution in that the Human Language
evolved as a part of Human Organismic Evolution...Languaging of Persons is Human Behavior & Experience, in the Present, reflecting the past and anticipating the future...We Person's construe our own Reality...Shaped by our perceiving, conceiving, feeling, intending and acting...Exploration,
Understanding and Action...Being Aware of Feedback and applying such feedback to keeping the Organism focused on Basic Purpose & Goals provides Stratigies and Tactics for keeping the
Person-centered Universe Goal-dirrected:Peace, Prosperity and Wellness...Sinse God, by definition,
transcends everything and sinse persons, by definition, transends everything, Persons can use their total Spiritual Domain, in whatever way each person wishes to, to establish & grow a relathionship
with God...Each Person listens (other senses) to Him or Her Self...with our own Connectivity...as we
Relate to the Other Systems in our Life Space such as family, friendship group & other components
of Community, Nation and Universe...

The Nature of the Universe and Human Nature...
Building a Model of Personing in the Human Social System (USA version) raises the Question of What kind of Universe does Human Personing, as we know it, Exist In?...The Human Social
Network extends from the individual Person, through familly, friends and associates,local, state &
national governments to the whole of Humanity, with interaction in both directions...Each Person is the center of our Universe and each of us are trying to develop Connectivity with all levels &
domains of the Universe <--> Human Social System <--> Nation <--> Community <--> Person...

The Universe has historically been construed as the competing forces of Good & Evil resulting from
Persons having fallen away from the Directions of God (failed to consider important System's Principles) and produced chaos in the social system...The Task of Person's was to get forgiveness
and Seek after His way...this also places the Person in an Exploration, Understanding & Action Mode...It puts many people into a looking back over your shoulder, second guessing yourself, mode...A lot of Awareness and systematic effort is required for Persons' to use Religion adaptatively
in their Lives in the current social system...Religion is not necessarilly the easiest or best way. It
is a way, for Persons to inhabit the Universe satisfactorily with personal satisfaction...There are other ways within the Spiritual Domain...(I welcome feedback on the over-all model or anything else).

CGCS is running a special on Memes for making Personing in the social system Meaningfull
& Pleasurable...

Capitalism is the economic form of government that stresses the role of capital in production and the personal or group ownership of capital as status markers for exerting control on the social
system. What needs to be redefined is Capital...Historically capital has changed from mostly land to mostly land & machinery and in the modern era, mostly knowledge, skills and relationships. We
need to define Capitalism as an agreement to protect and expand all sources of Capital and allow our democratic and humanitarian social system to allocate resources and promote the best resource utilization by individuals and groups.

(a couple of Edits I failed to get in)

Freckles agrees. I hitched her up backswards and made her push the wagon...She's still pi$$ed
off at me...